Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/23/1995 08:40 AM Senate FIN

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                             MINUTES                                           
                    SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                   
                        February 23, 1995                                      
                            8:40 a.m.                                          
  TAPES                                                                        
                                                                               
  SFC-95, #5, Side 1 (403-end)                                                 
  SFC-95, #5, Side 2 (575-000)                                                 
  SFC-95, #7, Side 1 (000-end)                                                 
  SFC-95, #7, Side 2 (575-032)                                                 
                                                                               
  CALL TO ORDER                                                                
                                                                               
  Senator Steve  Frank, Co-chairman,  convened the meeting  at                 
  approximately 8:40 a.m.                                                      
                                                                               
  PRESENT                                                                      
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Frank and Senator Donley were in attendance when                 
  the meeting convened.  Senators Phillips, Sharp, and Zharoff                 
  arrived  soon  after  it  began.   Co-chairman  Halford  and                 
  Senator Rieger arrived as it was in progress.                                
                                                                               
  ALSO ATTENDING:   Senator Green;  Nancy Slagle, Director  of                 
  Budget  Review,  Office  of  Management  and  Budget;  Karen                 
  Rehfeld,  Director  of  Administrative  Services,  Dept.  of                 
  Education; Duane Guiley, Director, School  Finance, Dept. of                 
  Education;    Janet    Clarke,    Director,   Division    of                 
  Administrative   Services,  Dept.   of  Health   and  Social                 
  Services;  Peter  Nakumura,  Director,  Division  of  Public                 
  Health, Dept. of Health and  Social Services; Bob Dindinger,                 
  Vice  Chairman,  Alaska   Tourism  Marketing  Council;  Jeff                 
  Morrison,  Director,  Administrative   &  Support   Services                 
  Division;  Dept.  of Military  and  Veterans'  Affairs; Bill                 
  Andrews,  Finance Services,  Division  of Support  Services,                 
  Dept. of Natural Resources; Ken Bischoff, Director, Division                 
  of  Administrative Services,  Dept.  of  Public Safety;  Ron                 
  Lind, Director,  Division of Administrative  Services, Dept.                 
  of  Transportation  and  Public   Facilities;  Gary  Hayden,                 
  Director, Marine Highway System, Dept. of Transportation and                 
  Public  Facilities;  Art  Snowden, Administrative  Director,                 
  Alaska   Court   System;   Fred   Fisher,  fiscal   analyst,                 
  Legislative Finance Division; and aides to committee members                 
  and other members of the legislature.                                        
                                                                               
  SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                          
                                                                               
  SB  47 -  APUC EXTENSION AND REGULATORY COST CHARGE                          
                                                                               
            Amendments 1 and 2 were offered by Senator Donley.                 
            Both  failed  on  a show  of  hands.    SB 47  was                 
            REPORTED OUT  of committee with  zero fiscal notes                 
            from  the Dept.  of  Administration  and Dept.  of                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
            Revenue (Audits) as  well as a note from the Dept.                 
            of Revenue (APUC) showing $3,789.7 (the amount set                 
            forth  in  the  FY  96  operating budget  plus  an                 
            additional $60.7 in contractual funds).                            
                                                                               
  HB 178 -  APPROP: SUPPLEMENTAL AND SPECIAL - FY 95                           
                                                                               
            Review of Secs.  18 through 70 was  conducted with                 
            Nancy Slagle and  representatives from the various                 
            departments listed above.                                          
                                                                               
                                                                               
  HOUSE BILL NO. 178                                                           
                                                                               
       An Act making  supplemental and special  appropriations                 
       for  the  expenses  of  state  government;  making  and                 
       amending  capital  and  operating  appropriations;  and                 
       providing for an effective date.                                        
                                                                               
  Upon convening the meeting, Co-chairman  Frank directed that                 
  review  of  FY  95  supplemental  funding continue.    NANCY                 
  SLAGLE, Director of Budget Review,  Office of Management and                 
  Budget, came  before committee  and commenced  the following                 
  review, beginning with Section 18:                                           
                                                                               
  Dept. of Education                                                           
                                                                               
  Sec. 18 contains $2 million  for foundation funding based on                 
  Fall student counts.  The number  is expected to change once                 
  February counts from  districts are  tabulated, in the  next                 
  week or two.  It is hoped the amount will be reduced.                        
                                                                               
  Sec. 19 funding  of $615.7 for vocational  education relates                 
  to questioned allocation of federal  grants.  KAREN REHFELD,                 
  Director  of Administrative  Services,  Dept. of  Education,                 
  advised that the request is based  on a determination by the                 
  U.S.  Department  of  Education  regarding  allocations   of                 
  federal vocational education  grants in FY  90 and 91.   The                 
  department  has  appealed  the determination,  has  filed  a                 
  motion  for dismissal,  and  expects a  ruling  in the  near                 
  future.  As a further explanation, Mrs. Rehfeld said federal                 
  funds are allocated  for specific  programs.   The state  is                 
  required to operate under an approved plan for allocation of                 
  these moneys.  In  reviewing expenditures for FY 90  and 91,                 
  the   federal   government  questioned   allocations  within                 
  categories of grant programs.   The department believes that                 
  once  questions  concerning  how  the  money was  spent  are                 
  answered,  there  will  be  no  need  for this  cost.    The                 
  requested supplemental is based on the partial determination                 
  notice.  The  department remains optimistic since  the state                 
  has not had problems with this program before.                               
                                                                               
  Discussion followed regarding possible administrative action                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  should the motion to dismiss fail.                                           
                                                                               
  Sec.  20 funding of  $22.2 through the  Alaska Commission on                 
  Postsecondary  Education  would assist  in  the cost  of the                 
  contract for  students in the WAMI program at the University                 
  of  Washington.    Underfunding  for  FY 95  totaled  $55.0.                 
  Funding  from  WICHE   was  transferred,  but  it   did  not                 
  completely  cover the  amount  needed  to  meet  contractual                 
  obligations.  As further background information, Mrs. Slagle                 
  said that  the Governor's  budget was  underfunded with  the                 
  intent that the  University of Washington would  collect the                 
  funds   directly   from   participants.     The   University                 
  subsequently declined to do that.  In response to a question                 
  concerning what would happen should  the supplemental not be                 
  funded, Mrs. Slagle said that moneys  would have to be taken                 
  from "the other general  fund program where the  moneys have                 
  already been  committed to individual participants,"  or the                 
  cost  would  have to  be  carried  forward  into next  year.                 
  Responding  to comments  that the  legislature attempted  to                 
  phase   out  the  WAMI  program,  Mrs.  Slagle  acknowledged                 
  discussion at conference  committee but  further noted  that                 
  moneys  for  first-year  students  were  added back  in  the                 
  reappropriation bill.                                                        
                                                                               
  Sec. 21 funding  of $2,197.0 relates to  settlement stemming                 
  from the Toksook Bay fuel spill.  (See Attachment A to these                 
  minutes.)  Payments  to  plaintiffs  total  $1,800.0.    The                 
  remaining $397.0 is for  cleanup.  The department is working                 
  with DEC to  determine whether that portion  could come from                 
  the prevention  account in  the oil  and hazardous  response                 
  fund.    DUANE GUILEY,  Director,  School Finance,  Dept. of                 
  Education,  described the  circumstances  leading up  to the                 
  spill.    In  1990,  a  rupture  occurred in  the  oil  line                 
  transferring fuel from large  bulk tanks to small  day tanks                 
  at  the generator facility.  Oil  leached through the ground                 
  and contaminated an aquifer.  Oil  was then pumped through a                 
  well into the water  system in the community.   That brought                 
  oil into individual  homes and  disrupted the water  supply.                 
  Suit  was   brought  on   behalf  of   500  residents,   the                 
  municipality,  and  village  council.     A  settlement  was                 
  negotiated between the state and all parties in exchange for                 
  a release.                                                                   
                                                                               
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  In further discussions, Mr. Guiley advised that the city was                 
  notified of the leak and possible contamination of the water                 
  supply.   The main  water supply  was frozen,  and the  city                 
  chose  to  operate the  backup  well, after  notification of                 
  potential contamination.                                                     
                                                                               
  Mr. Guiley advised of plans to clean up the spill during the                 
  coming summer.  The  requested $397.0 will not clean  up all                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  the  oil,   but  the   proposed  cleanup   plan  meets   DEC                 
  requirements.                                                                
                                                                               
  Dept. of Health and Social Services                                          
                                                                               
  Sec.  22  funding of  $871.7  in  new general  fund  program                 
  receipts relates to underestimation of  the amount needed to                 
  match  federal  participation  in  the  pharmaceutical  drug                 
  rebate  program.    JANET  CLARKE,  Director,   Division  of                 
  Administrative Services, Dept. of  Health & Social Services,                 
  explained  that   the   department   entered   the   program                 
  approximately three years ago.   Congress earlier determined                 
  that pharmaceutical companies were charging higher prices to                 
  Medicaid programs, nationwide.   An  invoice based on  state                 
  expenditure for pharmaceuticals is  sent to drug  companies,                 
  and  a  rebate is  paid  to the  state.   The  FY  96 budget                 
  contains an estimate  of approximately  $2 million from  the                 
  rebate to offset  Medicaid expenditures.   This revenue  has                 
  been identified  as a source of funding  for an error in the                 
  EPSDT program which was budgeted at  75%.  A federal auditor                 
  reviewed the  program and  allowed only  a 50%  match.   The                 
  program thus has a shortfall of $871.1.                                      
                                                                               
  In  response  to a  question  from Co-chairman  Halford, Ms.                 
  Clarke acknowledged  that there is  no relationship  between                 
  the shortfunded program and the  potential source of program                 
  receipt revenues.                                                            
                                                                               
  Sec. 23 funding of $4 million in federal receipts for Indian                 
  Health  Services reflects an  increase in Medicaid activity.                 
  Ms.  Clarke noted  that  the  $20  million program  is  100%                 
  federally funded.   As a further explanation, she voiced her                 
  understanding that as  Indian Health  Service and BIA  funds                 
  are  constrained  and capped,  regional  health corporations                 
  have  actively   pursued  Medicaid  eligibility   for  their                 
  clients.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Sec.  24 funding  of  $966.0 (half  general  funds and  half                 
  federal  receipts)  is  for  restoration  of  seven  options                 
  previously   cut  by   the   legislature.     Janet   Clarke                 
  acknowledged that  the request  reflects a  policy shift  by                 
  Governor Knowles to  restore options  eliminated during  the                 
  current  fiscal year.    Services  include:    chiropractic,                 
  advance   nurse   practitioners,  adult   dental,  emergency                 
  hospital, speech, hearing,  and language, optometrists, etc.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger  asked  if the  department  made use  of  the                 
  statutory change which allows case  managers to override the                 
  priority list.  Ms. Clarke said that the division of medical                 
  assistance has actively reviewed case management efforts and                 
  is particularly interested in mental health case management.                 
  However,   a    program   has   not    been   developed   to                 
  administratively reorder priorities in the option list.                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Senator Zharoff  referenced backup material  indicating that                 
  loss  of  services  impacted   over  16,000  adult  Medicaid                 
  recipients.   He then  inquired  concerning the  age of  the                 
  recipients.  Ms. Clarke  replied that the age group  varies.                 
  Service is  mandatory for those  under 21.   Senator Zharoff                 
  referenced  concern  from  senior  citizens.    Mrs.  Slagle                 
  advised  that   the  Governor   feels  strongly  about   the                 
  importance  of  services  to  that  group.    Senator  Sharp                 
  inquired regarding offsets to other  senior programs such as                 
  the longevity bonus.   Mrs. Slagle noted  that the longevity                 
  bonus is in the  phase-out process.  The FY 96  budget shows                 
  reductions  based on  reduced amounts for  which individuals                 
  qualify and a  decrease in the  roll.  Senator Sharp  voiced                 
  his belief that "a large majority of these 16,000 people are                 
  eligible and receiving the longevity bonus . . . ."                          
                                                                               
  Sec. 25  funding of  $392.9 to  the division  of family  and                 
  youth services for  child protection in high  priority cases                 
  includes $310.6 in federal receipts.  Mrs. Slagle voiced her                 
  understanding  that  funding  reflects  a  one-time  federal                 
  receipt for back payment of claims.  Funding will be used to                 
  support  social  workers.   As  a  further  explanation, Ms.                 
  Clarke said that  funding represents carryover moneys.   The                 
  normal  share is  approximately  15%.   Co-chairman  Halford                 
  asked  if the federal moneys would  be available without the                 
  general funds.   Ms. Clarke responded, "$300.0 are  the one-                 
  time funds, and,  yes, they would  be available without  the                 
  general fund, that's  correct."  The Co-chairman  voiced his                 
  understanding  that   the   department  could   go  to   the                 
  Legislative Budget and  Audit Committee and "put  the $300.0                 
  in without the supplemental."  Ms. Clarke concurred.                         
                                                                               
  Sec. 26  funding of  $580.0 to  the division  of family  and                 
  youth services is to maintain  staffing levels at McLaughlin                 
  Youth Center.  The center has been over capacity most of the                 
  year.  In order to provide a safe environment, much overtime                 
  has  been  incurred.   In response  to  a question  from Co-                 
  chairman  Frank,  Ms.  Clarke  advised  of  124   authorized                 
  positions  at  McLaughlin.     She  further  referenced  the                 
  department's  attempt  to  make  overall  changes  in  youth                 
  correctional  services  to avoid  need  for  a supplemental.                 
  However, population increases,  particularly at  McLaughlin,                 
  are  over  16%.   Most of  the  request relates  to overtime                 
  costs.  Discussion  followed between Ms. Clarke  and Senator                 
  Phillips  regarding   common  "threads"   involved  in   the                 
  population increase.   Ms. Clarke attested to  the fact that                 
  the violent nature of juvenile crime has increased.  Senator                 
  Donley acknowledged that, because of over crowding, there is                 
  often  no where  for police  to take juveniles  arrested for                 
  crime in Anchorage.  Ms.  Clarke advised that moneys derived                 
  from reduction of services at Nome  were transferred to four                 
  facilities in Anchorage, Fairbanks, Bethel, and Juneau.  The                 
  problem is statewide.                                                        
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Sec. 27  funding of  $342.0 reflects  public health  funding                 
  needed  to  control  an outbreak  of  TB.    In response  to                 
  questions  from  Senator   Phillips,  DR.  PETER   NAKUMURA,                 
  Director, Division  of Public  Health, Dept.  of Health  and                 
  Social Services, came  before committee.  He  explained that                 
  at one time TB infected 650 people out of 100,000 in Alaska,                 
  and the  death rate was up to 50%.   In 1969 the rate was 50                 
  per 100,000.  At one time,  it was as low as 9 per  100,000,                 
  but it has now increased to 12.  The national average is 10.                 
  In 1986, the Center for Disease Control evaluated Alaska and                 
  found that, due to  success of the program, the  state could                 
  begin  to  downsize.     At   one  point,  Alaska   expended                 
  approximately $850.0 for  TB alone.  The  total epidemiology                 
  budget  five  years ago  was  $2.7  million.   That  has now                 
  decreased  to  $1.7 million.    The amount  expended  for TB                 
  ranges from $600.0  in 1991  to $404.0 this  year.   Federal                 
  support in  the early  years through  Indian Health  Service                 
  hospitals,  experts, and  budgets  has  disappeared.   Three                 
  years  ago the  state  received $60.0  in  federal funds  to                 
  assist in this  effort.  This  year it will receive  $138.0.                 
  Available resources for TB control total $540.0.                             
                                                                               
  Dr. Nakumura next described efforts  involved in annual skin                 
  testing for children in rural areas.   He attested to recent                 
  efforts in Savoonga and Gambell and support efforts involved                 
  in delivering services to people.  The cost of treatment and                 
  surveillance   is   approximately  $123.0   for   the  1,200                 
  population in the above-noted communities.  The minimal cost                 
  of treating a single case of  resistent TB, should it occur,                 
  would be approximately $180.0.  Ms. Clarke further explained                 
  that the epidemiology  team has  visited eight villages  and                 
  serviced  5,400  people.    She  then cited  statistics  for                 
  various tests and medical services provided.  The department                 
  has absorbed some of the cost for these services.                            
                                                                               
  In  response  to a  question  from Co-chairman  Halford, Dr.                 
  Nakumura  explained   that  the  primary  focus   of  tribal                 
  corporation health service is treatment.  The state performs                 
  the  initial  work.     While  positive  testing   shows  up                 
  throughout  Alaska,  the  highest  concentration  is   along                 
  western   coastal   areas  and   southeast.      Alaska  has                 
  historically  experienced  high  levels  of  TB.    Once  an                 
  individual has the  infection, the  organism may remain  for                 
  years, even  after  treatment.   As  the body  weakens,  the                 
  infection may  be reactivated.   The  state has a  high-risk                 
  population.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger inquired  concerning the  $123.0 grant.   Dr.                 
  Nakumura  explained  that the  highest  outbreak was  in the                 
  Norton Sound area.   Health services there  have no capacity                 
  for "staying on top of the problem, much less the ability to                 
  intercede and take care of the problem."                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Responding to  a question  from Senator Phillips  concerning                 
  transmission  of  the  disease  from  Russia,  Dr.  Nakumura                 
  explained that a study of the  organism indicates that it is                 
  internal within the state.                                                   
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford questioned  need for funding  within the                 
  supplemental  as  opposed  to  inclusion  within the  FY  96                 
  budget.   Dr.  Nakumura  attested to  need  for a  sustained                 
  effort to "get on top of" the problem.                                       
                                                                               
  Sec.  28  (a) funding  of $164.9  in  general funds  for API                 
  reflects a fund source change relating to  downsizing of the                 
  hospital and loss of third-party receipts and policy changes                 
  by groups  reimbursing API.   In response to  questions from                 
  members  asking  how  downsizing could  increase  costs, Ms.                 
  Slagle pointed to  need to cover  fixed costs regardless  of                 
  the size  of the population.   Loss of  third-party recovery                 
  and Medicaid payments have reduced  revenues.  When revenues                 
  are down, the state must cover more of the fixed  costs from                 
  general funds.  Ms. Clarke added that, in response to budget                 
  reductions,  API was downsized  to 80 beds.   The adolescent                 
  unit was  reduced from 22  to 12  beds in order  to restrict                 
  staffing  needs.   That is  a prime population  for Medicaid                 
  eligibility.  Restriction of adolescent care reduces ability                 
  to collect  third-party revenue.   Downsizing eliminated  47                 
  positions.  Admissions have remained  stable, but the length                 
  of stay  has been  reduced.   That is  how the facility  has                 
  lived  within  its bed  allotment.   Further,  the veterans'                 
  administration previously provided over $1 million per year.                 
  Policy changes  have  reduced collections  to  an  estimated                 
  $100.0  this  fiscal year.   That  is  a drastic  decline in                 
  program receipts.                                                            
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger suggested  that a  20% decline in  population                 
  should reduce  rather than increase  costs.  In  response to                 
  further comments, Ms. Clarke said that  the FY 94 actual for                 
  API was  $16.9 million.   Current  year authorized is  $16.2                 
  million.    The facility  is  attempting  to deal  with  the                 
  overall reduction.   Senator  Rieger asked  if the  facility                 
  received  supplemental funding  last  year,  and Ms.  Clarke                 
  responded affirmatively.                                                     
                                                                               
  Sec. 28 (b) funding  of $164.9 covers a similar  fund source                 
  need at Harborview.  The facility is also showing a decrease                 
  in overall  dollars as  a result of  release of  individuals                 
  into the  community.   The release  was so successful  "that                 
  more  people  wanted  to  leave,"   and  an  additional  six                 
  individuals were released.  In  response to a question  from                 
  Senator  Rieger,  Ms.   Clarke  advised  that  the   current                 
  population is  44.  Four of  the additional six who  wish to                 
  leave  remain  at  the  facility  but  are  expected  to  be                 
  discharged before  the end of June.   Discharge has led to a                 
  reduction  of Medicaid revenues.  That  has caused a funding                 
  problem.      The FY 95  budget for Harborview  is over $6.8                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  million, including $3.3 million in general funds.                            
                                                                               
  In  response  to a  question  from Co-chairman  Halford, Ms.                 
  Clarke  explained that  last  year the  department requested                 
  $400.0 to establish a correctional unit.  That increment was                 
  not  approved by  conference committee, but  the legislature                 
  took funds  from the  base and  moved them  into a  separate                 
  component.  When those who could move into the facility were                 
  analyzed, it was  determined that a "very  small percentage"                 
  were Medicaid  eligible  (2  out of  50).    The  department                 
  subsequently  determined that  it  did not  have  sufficient                 
  resources  to  staff  another  unit,  and  there was  not  a                 
  sufficient number of Medicaid eligible prisoners to fill the                 
  unit.    The  department   was  thus  not  able  to   expand                 
  Harborview.  Funding  for the new  unit was then moved  back                 
  into the base budget.  Discussion  of legislative intent and                 
  department  action  followed  between  Ms.  Clarke  and  Co-                 
  chairman Halford.                                                            
                                                                               
  Responding to a  question from  Senator Zharoff, Ms.  Clarke                 
  explained that when a person  becomes Medicaid eligible, the                 
  state can  claim 50% of  the cost  of care from  the federal                 
  government.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Sec. 29 funding of $410.2 would  pay judgments and claims in                 
  Greenfield  v.  State, a  discrimination  case.   Ms. Clarke                 
  advised  that a $160.0 punitive damage award is under appeal                 
  at  this time.    The case  relates to  a  filing under  the                 
  "whistle blower act" and claims of sexual harassment.                        
                                                                               
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  Dept. of Labor                                                               
                                                                               
  Sec.  30  funding  of $55.6  to  the  Dept.  of Labor  would                 
  reestablish the state  data center.  Alaska is currently the                 
  only state without  a program  that acquires, analyzes,  and                 
  disseminates census  information used by  state agencies  to                 
  determine   population-based   federal   grants  and   local                 
  government   planning.     Co-chairman   Frank  voiced   his                 
  understanding that the  program was cut by  the legislature.                 
  Ms. Slagle concurred.  The decision to reinstate the program                 
  was made by Governor Knowles.                                                
                                                                               
  Dept. of Commerce and Economic Development                                   
                                                                               
  Sec.  31  funding of  $2,500.0 to  the  Dept. of  Commerce &                 
  Economic  Development  for  the   Alaska  Tourism  Marketing                 
  Council consists of  $1,875.0 in general funds  and industry                 
  contributions of $625.0. Funding would  be used for national                 
  advertising.   BOB DINDINGER, Vice Chairman,  Alaska Tourism                 
  Marketing Council, came before committee and distributed  an                 
  informational "white paper"  (Attachment B).   He said  that                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  the issue is Alaska jobs.  Requested  funding was cut in the                 
  Hickel budget a year ago, reinstated by the legislature, and                 
  then  a  portion  of  the reinstatement  was  vetoed  by the                 
  Governor.    The  Alaska tourism  program  contains  a small                 
  television program--approximately  $81 million  impressions.                 
  The intent  is to  increase that  to a  billion impressions.                 
  Approximately 15% of those who see these commercials come to                 
  Alaska in  the next  year, and  25% come  over a  three-year                 
  period.  The marketing effort consists of two programs:  The                 
  print media attempts to reach  those interested in traveling                 
  to Alaska while  television generates new interest  in those                 
  not previously  interested in  Alaska travel.   Budget  cuts                 
  eliminated  ability  to  generate new  interest.    The $2.5                 
  million will enhance that ability.                                           
                                                                               
  The  1990  budget  contained  approximately  $8  million  in                 
  general funds.  With addition of the proposed  request, only                 
  $5 million  in  general funds  will  flow to  the  marketing                 
  council this year.                                                           
                                                                               
  In response to  a question concerning timing,  Mr. Dindinger                 
  advised that the  commercials "are in  the can."   Requested                 
  funding would provide  air time.   He advised that of  those                 
  traveling to  Alaska during the  coming year, 40%  will make                 
  that decision between March and May.  Approximately 64% will                 
  make bookings and reservations during that period.   This is                 
  the time of year when people are thinking about vacations to                 
  "the North Country."  Mr. Dindinger stressed that television                 
  advertising has a long life.  Sometimes it takes a number of                 
  years before individuals commit to Alaska travel.                            
                                                                               
  Dept. of Military and Veterans' Affairs                                      
                                                                               
  Sec.  32  funding of  $900.0  for  the Dept.  of  Military &                 
  Veterans Affairs is based on a five-year average of disaster                 
  relief needs for spring flood activity.  The present balance                 
  of the disaster relief fund is $400.0.   Co-chairman Halford                 
  inquired regarding timing of the request in relation to when                 
  flooding occurs.  JEFF MORRISON, Director, Administrative  &                 
  Support Services,  Dept. of  Military and  Veterans Affairs,                 
  advised of flooding in May and receipt of billings that come                 
  in over the  summer.  He  stressed the importance of  timely                 
  response.   Co-chairman Halford  voiced need  to budget  for                 
  expenditures in the year in which they occur.                                
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp referenced backup  information indicating that                 
  flood activity over  the last two years has  been zero.  The                 
  request is  based on a five-year average with a high year in                 
  1992.  Mr. Morrison attested to need to respond to disasters                 
  other than floods.                                                           
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford asked  if the  department would fail  to                 
  respond because of a  lack of disaster relief funding.   Mr.                 
  Morrison answered negatively, citing legislative policy that                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  "money  will always  be there  for disasters."    The Alaska                 
  Disaster  Act   has   specific  procedures   if  there   are                 
  insufficient funds for the Governor to obtain  the moneys he                 
  needs to respond to a disaster.                                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Dept. of Natural Resources                                                   
                                                                               
  Sec.  33  funding  of  $1,660.0  to  the  Dept.  of  Natural                 
  Resources would  cover  the  cost of  FY  94  fire  fighting                 
  activity.  The  supplemental request for FY  94 was reduced.                 
  The current request reflects the shortage that occurred as a                 
  result.  BILL ANDREWS, Finance Services, Division of Support                 
  Services,  Dept.  of Natural  Resources, explained  that the                 
  fires  occurred  within  areas   to  which  the   department                 
  responds.  He cited a fire in  the Delta area as an example.                 
  He  added that  the  state experiences  an  average of  $2.7                 
  million in spring fire activity.                                             
                                                                               
  Sec. 34 funding of $7,195.0 covers fire suppression activity                 
  for FY  95, fixed  costs, increased  fire fighting  activity                 
  last summer, and  projected costs  of fighting spring  fires                 
  this year.  Mr. Andrews said that  activity for the past two                 
  summers  averaged  $9.2 million.    For  '91 the  total  was                 
  "around $20 million."   In  response to  questions from  Co-                 
  chairman  Halford, Mr.  Andrews explained  that fixed  costs                 
  amount   to  approximately  $4  million.    The  Co-chairman                 
  suggested  that  the state  is  spending $4  million  "to be                 
  ready."  Mr. Andrews said  that fixed costs include aircraft                 
  contracts, contracts  with  BLM for  smoke jumpers,  weather                 
  detection,  aircraft  pilots,  mess  hall staff,  accounting                 
  positions,  etc.   Those  activities  are financed  from the                 
  department's general fund appropriation.                                     
                                                                               
  Senator Zharoff inquired  concerning federal  dollars.   Mr.                 
  Andrews advised  of $5  million in  reimbursement for  fires                 
  fought  on federal  lands.   The state  also  reimburses the                 
  federal government for  use of BLM personnel  called upon to                 
  fight fires on state lands.                                                  
                                                                               
  Sec. 35  contains a  lapse date  extension for  FY 95  Exxon                 
  Valdez Trustee Council restoration projects approved through                 
  the  RPL  process  by  the   Legislative  Budget  and  Audit                 
  Committee.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Dept. of Public Safety                                                       
                                                                               
  Sec. 36  funding of  $682.4 to  the Dept.  of Public  Safety                 
  would cover  increased costs  for community  jails to  bring                 
  them in line  with standards  recommended by the  Governor's                 
  task force.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Sec. 37  funding of  $200.0 to  the Dept.  of Public  Safety                 
  covers an arbitrator's  award relating to the  state trooper                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  termination settlement.  KEN BISCHOFF, Director, Division of                 
  Administrative Services,  Dept. of Public  Safety, explained                 
  that  the  substance  of  the  case  is confidential.    The                 
  troopers dismissed an  employee for  misconduct.  The  union                 
  and employee  filed a grievance, and the arbitrator found in                 
  their  favor.   Co-chairman Halford inquired  concerning the                 
  effect of not  paying the award.   Co-chairman Frank  voiced                 
  need to seek  an opinion from  an attorney.   He also  asked                 
  that the department provide all  available materials as well                 
  as information  on what  material is  confidential and  why.                 
  Senator Rieger questioned why documents would be  considered                 
  confidential and asked if a  change of policy was  involved.                 
  Mr. Bischoff said there was no intent to change  policy.  He                 
  then  apologized  for  the lack  of  backup  information and                 
  advised that he would provide greater detail.                                
                                                                               
  Sec. 38 funding of  $156.0 for operating costs of  the civil                 
  air patrol covers  FY 95 underfunding.  Ms.  Slagle attested                 
  to increased  maintenance, operating,  insurance, and  audit                 
  costs.   Co-chairman  Halford voiced his  understanding that                 
  the requested supplemental would become part of the base for                 
  next year.  Mr. Bischoff said, "I believe the expectation of                 
  the  civil   air  patrol  would  be  to  carry  forward  the                 
  supplemental."  Mrs.  Slagle advised that she  would provide                 
  information on historical funding.                                           
                                                                               
  Sec. 39  funding of  $186.5 to  the Dept.  of Public  Safety                 
  represents a  funding source  change for  costs relating  to                 
  implementation of  concealed weapon legislation.  The amount                 
  of anticipated program receipts was  not generated due to  a                 
  lesser number of people requesting permits.   To a statement                 
  from Co-chairman Frank  suggesting that the cost  of permits                 
  should cover  the cost  of the  program, Mr.  Bischoff noted                 
  that of the  $122 fee,  the state troopers  receive $59  for                 
  processing.   The fingerprinting  check costs  $35, and  $24                 
  flows to the  FBI.  The supplemental request  is based on 40                 
  applications a day.   The last two weeks have  averaged less                 
  than 30.   The  troopers hired  six of  an estimated  twelve                 
  positions, and records and identification hired two of five.                 
  The  program  is new  and  has  no basis  for  more accurate                 
  estimates.  The original fiscal note  for the bill was based                 
  on experience in the state of Washington.  Co-chairman Frank                 
  reiterated that permit  fees should  cover the  cost of  the                 
  program.  Mr. Bischoff attested to start-up costs as well as                 
  those associated  with development of  regulations, computer                 
  time,  public notices and meetings,  etc.  Discussion of the                 
  fiscal note followed.   Mr. Bischoff advised  of an original                 
  request for $1 million and subsequent funding of $676.0 (all                 
  program receipts).  Co-chairman Frank voiced need to further                 
  research  the  issue  to  determine  if general  funds  were                 
  involved.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Sec. 40  funding of  $115.0 to  the Dept.  of Public  Safety                 
  reflects  a  funding source  change  for the  narcotics task                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  force from program receipts  to general fund as a  result of                 
  uncollectibility of seized assets.  Co-chairman  Frank asked                 
  if program receipt  authority was  increased in last  year's                 
  budget.  Mr.  Bischoff explained  that program receipts  are                 
  "drying up," primarily as a result  of a court decision that                 
  "precludes us  from using  the same  process."   One of  the                 
  sources was providing  the general  fund match  for the  75%                 
  federal contribution for the task force.                                     
                                                                               
  Dept. of Transportation and Public Facilities                                
                                                                               
  Secs.  41,  42, and  43,  provide  funding to  the  Dept. of                 
  Transportation and Public Facilities for snow removal.  Mrs.                 
  Slagle advised of need for the following changes in amounts:                 
                                                                               
       Sec. 41 - Highways and Aviation - Snow Removal                          
                 change $2,340.0 to $2,170.0                                   
                                                                               
       Sec. 42 - Statewide Facilities M & O - Snow Removal                     
                 change $60.0 to $49.8                                         
                                                                               
       Sec. 43 - Anchorage Int. Airport - Snow Removal                         
                 change $250.0 to $350.0.                                      
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford inquired concerning projections for snow                 
  removal for the remainder  of the winter.  Mrs.  Slagle said                 
  that  the foregoing  changes reflect recalculation  of need.                 
  The department continues to monitor this situation.                          
                                                                               
  Senator   Phillips  stressed   the  importance   of  highway                 
  maintenance and  asked if  the department  was shortchanging                 
  the effort.  RON LIND,  Director, Division of Administrative                 
  Services,  Dept. of  Transportation  and Public  Facilities,                 
  explained that  the above  adjustments  result from  lowered                 
  assumptions in Southcentral, Interior, and Southeast, offset                 
  by the fact that assumptions for the Central region were not                 
  sufficient.                                                                  
                                                                               
  Co-chairman  Franks  asked  what  percentage  of  the budget                 
  generally remains  and is  utilized for  spring maintenance.                 
  Mr. Lind said he would provide the information.                              
                                                                               
  Secs. 44, 45, 46, and 47  deal with emergency repairs.   The                 
  department was not provided adequate funding for these types                 
  of problems and was  asked to return to the  legislature and                 
  make  specific  requests.    Ron  Lind  explained  that  the                 
  department  typically  received  $1  to  $1.5  million,  for                 
  emergency  repairs, in the  capital budget.   Last year, the                 
  decision  was  made  not  to  fund  these  capital  items in                 
  advance.    The   department  was  then  to   bring  forward                 
  individual maintenance requests.                                             
                                                                               
  Discussion of need for culvert replacement at Birchwood Loop                 
  and Rabbit Creek roads  followed.  Mr. Lind said  that basic                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  salary and equipment costs for the  first 37.5 hours of crew                 
  work on  emergency repair projects  listed in Secs.  44, 46,                 
  and 47  are  not included  in  the requests.    Supplemental                 
  funding relates to overtime, special contracts, and  special                 
  equipment   rental.      The   department   actually   spent                 
  approximately  $600.0 on  Dalton Highway repairs,  $300.0 of                 
  which came from the maintenance budget.                                      
                                                                               
  Sec. 46 funding of $750.0 to the Dept. of Transportation and                 
  Public Facilities would  cover spring upkeep and  repairs to                 
  maintain safety on road systems.  Mr. Lind acknowledged that                 
  the department does not normally  receive a supplemental for                 
  this purpose.  When Governor Knowles took office, he queried                 
  departments  concerning  budgetary  problem  areas.    DOTPF                 
  identified  approximately   $150.0  for  each  of  the  five                 
  districts.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Discussion  followed regarding  meetings  with the  Canadian                 
  government regarding the Skagway Road.                                       
                                                                               
  Secs. 49  and 50  deal with  payments to  Dept.  of Law  for                 
  services  relating to  Copper River  Highway  litigation and                 
  right-of-way activity on Native allotments.  Speaking to the                 
  $230.0 for the  Copper River Highway, Mr.  Lind advised that                 
  while the majority  covers attorney  fees, it also  includes                 
  specialized engineering expert witnesses.                                    
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Frank voiced his understanding that need for the                 
  funding relates to prior budget  years.  Mr. Lind concurred.                 
  He noted that bills  for the Copper River Highway  date from                 
  1994.  He  mentioned that bills  received from the Dept.  of                 
  Law for the present year date  only through September.  Work                 
  on the matter continues.                                                     
                                                                               
  Sec. 51 funding  of $145.0 from the  Anchorage International                 
  Airport fund would cover court-ordered personnel costs.  Mr.                 
  Lind explained  that the  request relates  to claims by  two                 
  security  guards  who worked  at  the Anchorage  airport for                 
  approximately  12  years.  In  1989,  when  the  legislature                 
  changed the law and placed guards under the police standards                 
  council, the individuals  could not distinguish  colors well                 
  enough to pass the visual acuity test and meet certification                 
  requirements.  They were subsequently laid  off.  A suit was                 
  filed, the guards won, and they have since been rehired.                     
                                                                               
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  Sec. 52  funding of  $739.8  would respond  to prior  policy                 
  decisions regarding expansion of  existing schedules.   GARY                 
  HAYDEN, Director,  Alaska  Marine Highway  System, Dept.  of                 
  Transportation and Public Facilities,  explained that review                 
  of  the system budget, seven months  into the present fiscal                 
  year, indicates that  the division would deficit  spend $1.6                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  million.    Reasons for  the  projected deficit  result from                 
  decisions made by the previous administration and those made                 
  since the  current administration  commenced.   Revenues are                 
  down approximately $400.0  from last year due  to additional                 
  service provided  by the LaCONTI in November and December, a                 
  19% decrease  in passenger traffic,  and an 11%  decrease in                 
  vehicles.      Policy   decisions   made  by   the   present                 
  administration to prevent the system  from going "further in                 
  the hole"  were to  lay up  the COLUMBIA  and shift  vessels                 
  around to  cover  the  Bellingham run.    The  COLUMBIA  was                 
  scheduled to  come on line  March 31,  1995.  That  has been                 
  moved back  to May  5.  Mr.  Hayden said  he had  also taken                 
  steps to generate  additional winter revenues  through March                 
  and April promotions.   He advised that he was  also working                 
  with system managers to reduce spending.                                     
                                                                               
  In response to  a question from Senator  Phillips concerning                 
  decreased traffic, Mr.  Hayden said  that some results  from                 
  discontinuance of  the senior citizen discount,  revision of                 
  the age  limit for youth  fares, elimination of  the driver-                 
  rides-free program, and the  10% rate increase.  Any  one of                 
  those  measures   would  have   been  acceptable,  but   the                 
  accumulation of a number  of policy changes at one  time was                 
  difficult.    The department  also  failed to  reduce higher                 
  summer rates and  provide lower rates  for winter travel  by                 
  resident Alaskans.  That, in combination with low air fares,                 
  took a toll on ferry traffic.                                                
                                                                               
  Mr.   Hayden   said   he  originally   requested   that  the                 
  supplemental  include interest earned  by the  Alaska Marine                 
  Highway  System fund.  At this point, the fund has earned in                 
  excess of $1 million in interest which has been deposited in                 
  the general fund.                                                            
                                                                               
  In response  to a question  from Senator Rieger,  Mr. Hayden                 
  explained that in  light of a  reduced number of riders  and                 
  rate increases, revenue collections remain about the same as                 
  last year.   Earnings last  year were down  by approximately                 
  $400.0.  That amount was not collected this year either.                     
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Frank asked if anyone was laid off due to  a 20%                 
  reduction  in  riders.   Mr. Hayden  said  the only  way the                 
  system could respond to the reduction  was by "laying a ship                 
  up, which I've done."  To  a suggestion that ferry personnel                 
  could be adjusted to coincide with the number of riders, Mr.                 
  Hayden  explained  that  manning  levels  are set  forth  in                 
  contracts with various  unions.  Staffing is  not based upon                 
  how many people the vessel carries on  a particular sailing.                 
  Mr. Hayden further attested to need to meet Coast Guard crew                 
  requirements.                                                                
                                                                               
  Discussion followed  among committee members and  Mr. Hayden                 
  regarding system operating plans and strategies.  Mr. Hayden                 
  said that  if  the system  does  not receive  the  requested                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  supplemental, he would  have to "drastically cut back on the                 
  number of weeks of operation next year."                                     
                                                                               
  Senator  Rieger  inquired  regarding  short  notice  pricing                 
  flexibility.  Mr. Hayden  said he would be happy  to discuss                 
  rates, interest in  the system, and ridership  in the course                 
  of transportation subcommittee meetings.                                     
                                                                               
  Discussion  followed between Senator  Zharoff and Mr. Hayden                 
  concerning operation of  the TUSTUMENA.  Mr.  Hayden advised                 
  that it is scheduled for a new engine next year and would be                 
  off line for five winter months.                                             
                                                                               
  Senator Zharoff attested  to complaints  by constituents  in                 
  Southeast the  they are  unable to  get vehicles  on ferries                 
  through the end  of the summer.   Mr. Hayden explained  that                 
  the system takes in approximately 72% of its revenues during                 
  the summer  season.   Those  revenues  allow the  system  to                 
  provide service  during the  winter.   Winter travelers  are                 
  thus  the  ones who  will most  feel  the impact  of reduced                 
  service.                                                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
  SENATE BILL NO. 47                                                           
                                                                               
       Act relating to  the extent to which the  Alaska Public                 
       Utilities  Commission  may  exercise  its  powers  when                 
       regulating  utilities;  establishing a  regulatory cost                 
       charge  on  public  utilities  and  pipeline  carriers;                 
       relating to the allocation of  costs in hearings before                 
       the Alaska Public Utilities Commission; relating to the                 
       method by which  utilities are  exempted from and  made                 
       subject  to regulation  by the Alaska  Public Utilities                 
       Commission; relating  to  the  monetary  threshold  for                 
       regulation of certain kinds of  utilities by the Alaska                 
       Public  Utilities  Commission;  extending   the  Alaska                 
       Public  Utilities  Commission;  relating  to  staggered                 
       terms  for  members  of  the  Alaska  Public  Utilities                 
       Commission; and providing for an effective date."                       
                                                                               
  At this  point in  the meeting,  Co-chairman Frank  directed                 
  that  review of  supplemental  funding  be  interrupted  for                 
  consideration of SB  47.   Co-chairman  Halford acknowledged                 
  proposed  amendments  by  Senator Donley.    Senator  Donley                 
  explained that Amendment No. 1 would "turn the bill into . .                 
  .  a  one-year  extension  of   the  existing  status  quo."                 
  Amendment  No. 2 would  change the extension  portion of the                 
  existing  bill to  a one-year extension.   The  Senator then                 
  MOVED for adoption of Amendment No. 1 (90LS0340\C.2, Cramer,                 
  2/22/95).  Senator  Zharoff asked if  the effect would be  a                 
  two-year extension--an extension of one-year with a one-year                 
  wind   down.     Co-chairman   Halford  concurred   in  that                 
  understanding.   Senator  Phillips  inquired concerning  the                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  rationale behind the amendment.   Senator Donley voiced need                 
  to  first solve the threat of  dissolution of the APUC.  The                 
  legislature could then review technical  changes in the bill                 
  with greater deliberation.                                                   
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford called  for a show of  hands on adoption                 
  of Amendment No. 1.  The motion FAILED  on a vote of 2 to 5.                 
  (Senators Donley  and Zharoff voted  in support.   All other                 
  members were opposed.)                                                       
                                                                               
  Senator Donley next  MOVED for adoption of  Amendment No. 2,                 
  which he explained  would retain all existing  provisions of                 
  the bill with the  exception of extension of sunset  to 1996                 
  rather than 1999.   Senator Sharp quoted from a  legislative                 
  audit report recommending  a ten-year extension to  June 30,                 
  2003.  The proposed bill provides  extension for five years,                 
  a  partial  compromise.    Co-chairman  Halford  noted  that                 
  original sunset  law provided  a four-year  cycle.   Senator                 
  Zharoff  voiced  concern  over extension  to  the  year 2000                 
  because of serious changes within the legislation that could                 
  impact  larger  municipalities.    He suggested  that  those                 
  changes be  reviewed over  the next  year or  two.   Senator                 
  Rieger advised that he would be  more comfortable with a two                 
  rather than five-year extension.   He referenced substantial                 
  technological changes within public utilities.                               
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford called  for a show of hands  on adoption                 
  of Amendment No. 2.  The motion FAILED  on a vote of 3 to 4.                 
  (Senators Donley, Rieger, and Zharoff  were in support.  All                 
  other members were opposed.)                                                 
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp renewed his  earlier MOTION for passage of  SB
  47 with  individual recommendations and  accompanying fiscal                 
  notes.  No objection having been  raised, SB 47 was REPORTED                 
  OUT of committee  with zero fiscal  notes from the Dept.  of                 
  Revenue  and Dept.  of Administration  and  an informational                 
  note from  the Dept.  of Commerce  and Economic  Development                 
  showing funding for APUC contained  within the Governor's FY                 
  96 budget  plus  an additional  $60.7 in  contractual.   Co-                 
  chairmen Frank and  Halford and Senators Phillips  and Sharp                 
  signed the committee report with a "do pass" recommendation.                 
  Senator Rieger signed "no recommendation."   Senator Zharoff                 
  signed  "no recommendation  (too long),  and  Senator Donley                 
  indicated need for amendment.                                                
                                                                               
                                                                               
  HOUSE BILL NO. 178                                                           
                                                                               
       An Act  making supplemental and  special appropriations                 
       for  the  expenses  of  state  government;  making  and                 
       amending  capital  and  operating  appropriations;  and                 
       providing for an effective date                                         
                                                                               
                                                                               
  At this  point in  the meeting,  Co-chairman Frank  directed                 
  that  the committee  revert  to continued  review  of FY  95                 
  supplemental funding.                                                        
                                                                               
  Dept. of Community and Regional Affairs                                      
                                                                               
  Sec. 53 seeks the traditional lapse  date extension on rural                 
  development grants.   Nancy Slagle explained that  these are                 
  construction-type  projects.   Due  to  delays in  award and                 
  problems associated with the construction season, they often                 
  extend beyond the end of the fiscal year.                                    
                                                                               
  Sec. 54 funding of $50.0 would provide the statutory  first-                 
  year organizational grant  for the  City of Egegik.   It  is                 
  anticipated  the second-year,  $25.0  grant,  will  also  be                 
  requested.  Co-chairman Frank asked  that Ms. Slagle advised                 
  of the date of organization.                                                 
                                                                               
  Dept. of Corrections                                                         
                                                                               
  Sec. 55 seeks a funding source change from $200.0 in program                 
  receipts to general funds.  This  change relates to the Cook                 
  Inlet Correctional Center.   When the budget  was originally                 
  passed, it   anticipated installation of a  new phone system                 
  to allow for the billing of phone calls for prisoners.  That                 
  system has not yet been established.   The change covers the                 
  shortfall in receipts.                                                       
                                                                               
  Sec. 56  contains a  $39.3 request  to assist  the Dept.  of                 
  Corrections  in implementation of  transfer of the community                 
  jails program from the Dept. of Public Safety.                               
                                                                               
  Sec. 57  seeks $1,611.5 in  contempt of court  fines imposed                 
  upon  the   Dept.  of   Corrections  in   September.     The                 
  administration is  "still in the  process of trying  to find                 
  out where those moneys are going to go" in terms of  whether                 
  they will flow to the general fund or a prisoner trust.  Ms.                 
  Slagle acknowledged that court fines generally accrue to the                 
  general  fund.  In  this instance,  however, because  of the                 
  nature  of  the fines,  a  question  has been  raised.   Co-                 
  chairman  Halford  asked if  the  question would  be settled                 
  prior to dealing with the court system budget for next year.                 
  Ms. Slagle responded that she was unsure of the timing.  The                 
  issue  is  being  handled  by  the  office  of the  attorney                 
  general.  Senator  Sharp voiced need  to know how the  money                 
  will be used prior to taking action on the appropriation.                    
                                                                               
  Sec.  58 seeks $457.0  for pending personnel  actions.  This                 
  portion  was  removed  from  the  $550.0 in  the  fast-track                 
  supplemental and  inserted here  because exact amounts  have                 
  not yet been settled.  Mrs. Slagle acknowledged that numbers                 
  are  not  final.    The  administration  will  be  providing                 
  additional information as it becomes available.                              
                                                                               
                                                                               
  University of Alaska                                                         
                                                                               
  Sec. 59 would provide $130.1 to the University of Alaska for                 
  snow and  ice removal at Anchorage and  Prince William Sound                 
  campuses.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Alaska Court System                                                          
                                                                               
  Sec. 60 provides $106.9 to the  Court System for the pending                 
  North Slope  royalty case  coming to  trial in  April.   The                 
  request  relates to  the  actual cost  of  holding a  trial.                 
  These costs were not  anticipated in the FY 95 budget.   Co-                 
  chairman  Frank  asked why  costs  were unanticipated.   ART                 
  SNOWDEN,  Administrative  Director,  Alaska   Court  System,                 
  explained that  in November,  the attorney general  notified                 
  the court system that the case would not settle and would go                 
  to  trial.    The court  system  has  historically requested                 
  supplementals  when  dealing   with  large,  complex  cases.                 
  Funding will be  segregated, and if  there is no trial,  the                 
  moneys will return to the legislature.  The case will entail                 
  removing a judge from his normal  duties for six months.   A                 
  temporary judge  will thus  be  hired to  cover the  ongoing                 
  caseload.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Sec. 61 contains  $51.7 for  retroactive magistrate pay  for                 
  prior  years.  Mr. Snowden explained  that the supreme court                 
  froze  magistrate salaries.   As of July  1, the new  salary                 
  schedule will not fluctuate based on caseload.  These moneys                 
  are due and owing to magistrates.  The court system does not                 
  presently have the legal right  to make the needed  payment.                 
  If not  appropriated, a  lawsuit  will likely  be filed  and                 
  easily won, plus attorney fees.                                              
                                                                               
  All Departments                                                              
                                                                               
  Sec.  62  deals with  miscellaneous  claims and  stale dated                 
  warrants.  All  are over  two years  old.  The  state has  a                 
  statutory obligation to pay these costs.                                     
                                                                               
  Capital Requests                                                             
                                                                               
  Secs. 63 and 64  reflect capital requests from the  Dept. of                 
  Revenue for AHFC.   The  first seeks $258.8  for low  income                 
  weatherization following Kobuk River flooding.   Some of the                 
  cost will be covered  by the Dept. of Military  and Veterans                 
  Affairs.   Funding  will  be covered  100%  by  the  federal                 
  government.  Mrs. Slagle further  advised, "They've asked to                 
  reduce this to at least $149.0."  OMB continues to talk with                 
  AHFC to determine if it can be eliminated entirely.                          
                                                                               
  The  $1.8  million  requested  for  matching funds  for  the                 
  supplemental  housing  program   for  ongoing   construction                 
  represents corporate receipts.  Senator  Rieger asked if the                 
  AHFC percentage  is fixed.   Mrs.  Slagle said  she did  not                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  know.  She added that the level provided in the FY 95 budget                 
  was  inadequate  to  meet  the  match for  federal  dollars.                 
  Senator Sharp  inquired concerning  which projects  would be                 
  covered by the funding.  Mrs.  Slagle advised that she would                 
  provide a list of specific projects.                                         
                                                                               
  Sec. 65 seeks $41.6 to  the Dept. of Public Safety for  roof                 
  repairs at the Civil Air Patrol hangar at Merrill Field.                     
                                                                               
  Sec. 66 provides $41.6 for code upgrades at the Homer jail.                  
                                                                               
  Sec. 67 funding of $100.0 would  improve access at the North                 
  Slope Borough jail.                                                          
                                                                               
  Secs. 68  and 69  provide respective  funding of  $153.0 and                 
  $1,326.0 for  the Butrovich  Building at  the University  of                 
  Alaska at Fairbanks.  Funding relates to structural problems                 
  associated  with  panel removal  and  replacement.   It cost                 
  $153.0 to  remove the  eroding panels.   The University  has                 
  received  approximately  $1  million  in  settlements   from                 
  contractors  and hopes  for additional  settlement receipts.                 
  The cost of replacement is $2,326.0.   The issue is expected                 
  to go to trial next fall.                                                    
                                                                               
  Brief  discussion followed  regarding  use of  the Butrovich                 
  Building.                                                                    
                                                                               
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting was adjourned at approximately 11:07 a.m.                        
                                                                               

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